My time in seminary was perhaps one of my sweetest moments yet the hardest time of my life. Yes, seminary isn’t for everyone, but it was crucial for me as it was a major formative time in my own spiritual journey. It has prepared me tremendously for the calling into full-time ministry.

But seminary didn’t teach me everything. It certainly didn’t fully prepare me for ministry. I realize though, going into ministry, some things are just hard to learn in the classroom setting.

I have learned and grown tremendously the past 9 years in the church ministry context. It has been eye-opening and at the same time a sad reality as I’ve seen many of my friends who’ve been hurt by the church, dropped out of ministry and left the church all together.

Here are 10 things I wished I learned in Seminary that they never taught me.


1. How people really don’t care about theology.

I recall my first year in Bible college where I was excited about all the theology classes I was taking. Going into ministry soon I realized, that not everyone was excited and talked about theology as much as my professors and I did in seminary.

In the ministry setting, churches rarely ever split over theological debates. Majority of the time, they care more about their personal preferences such as the genre of music or the color of the carpet. As a pastor, you have to be able to navigate through those gray areas of ministry.

That does not mean throw theology out the window, however it does mean for us to be prepared to deal beyond what we’ve learned in systematic theology class in seminary is essential and crucial for us pastors.

2. How different churches have different expectations.

Since every community is different, how to “read” a community is the key. I’ve now worked in three different church settings. Each time I had to change how I viewed organizational structure and administration task.

Find out your congregation’s expectations of the pastoral role and do your best to meet the ones that are most important in your ministry.

3. How ministry can be so tough and hard.

Ministry is just tough. There were many times I felt like I wanted to just simply throw the towel in the ring and call it “quits,” and be done with it all. There are not enough volunteers to fill the gaps, people are not happy with the direction of the church and move elsewhere, unspoken expectation of ministry that never seemed to be met, the shiny beautiful picture of church ministry that was once spoken of in seminary is nowhere to be seen.

Not only from the congregational standpoint was the struggle trying to lead dreadful, but the reality was inside the workplace, where the leadership culture sucked the life out of me even more so. It was within the pastoral staff that seemed to require a higher demand, requests and suggestions from deacon board that I was not prepared to deal with.

4. How difficult it is for change to take place.

There is no change without conflict… and how to deal with it when it comes.

Some seminarians think they can just convince others of truth, and they’ll obviously get on board with God. Sadly, I’ve seen a few fresh seminary graduates who go into ministry and lead in a way that can damage the church or cause a split as they divide and conquer with, “My way or the high way” mentality.

Ministry, though, is about the heart as much as the head. Only God can change both.

5. How I ought to pray more.

We talked about prayer, but we didn’t model prayer so that prayer became part of our DNA.

I understand that some say this is not the role of the seminary, but I argue otherwise. We must give attention to this discipline, lest we produce ministers more dependent on their training than on God.


6. How people can be very mean.

I can know countless pastor friends who are no longer in pastoral ministry because they were beaten left to right by the church like a punching bag. I mean, yes, these are sinners. But, from a fellow brother and sister in Christ to be backstabbing?

There’s nothing as beautiful as the church, but at the same time, there’s nothing as hurtful as the church.

We should expect sinful people to be like that, but somehow, we all leave seminary expecting a perfect church. They are not out there. So, care for people, but also care for yourself with rest and with support so that you can handle it better when your sheep bite.

7. How marriage and ministry fit together.

This is the truth; I can always find another church position. The church at the end of the day, doesn’t really need me. However, my wife? I don’t get a second chance with her. I had to protect my marriage for life, if it even means losing my job.

Seminary never taught me about balancing my marriage and my ministry. I can’t have my marriage at the back burner waiting as ministry will constantly invade that sacred time. At times, it’s not answering the phone. People will demand, “It’s an emergency!” No, it’s not. For every, “Yes” to ministry is a “No” to your family. Saying no to ministry means saying no to work. It does not mean saying no to God.

God may have called you to ministry, but he’s called you first to your family. Ministry will not stay there whether in sickness or in health. Ministry won’t stick around rich or poor, but you have made the vow to your wife, “till death do us apart”. Cheating your family for the sake of ministry forsakes your ministry.

8. How your degrees really don’t matter much.

I’ve learned for the past several years in ministry that people need to feel my care before they hear my message.

Now, I believe seminary is a wonderful thing that helps train pastors to fulfill their calling as faithful men of God. Thus, I hope all churches will seek seminary trained pastors. However, just because a pastor has a M.Div. degree from a well-known seminary doesn’t make him a good pastor. At least, I’ve learned that being in ministry.

As Theodore Roosevelt said it well, “People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.”

9. How to be a leader more than a preacher.

In seminary, we’ve taken a lot on homiletic class (Biblical exposition) on how to deliver sermons, yet not much on leadership. You may be a solid communicator, but if you can’t lead well you’ll severely cripple your congregation.

You’ll struggle to recruit and keep volunteers, build a healthy staff, and build a healthy church culture. You’ll struggle when the issues you’re brought aren’t black-and-white, and when you can’t simply quote a verse and move on. Leading people through difficulties and change will shape your ministry.

10. How to make disciples.

Seminary never taught me to find disciple makers or how to make disciples. We weren’t training church members on how to carry out the Great Commission.  True, we had evangelism classes, but nothing like the practical stuff that would come along a few years later in the church to make disciples who make disciples.

My primary role is to make disciples who make disciples.


Welcome to the Real World

Seminary was a bubble. The real world doesn’t think, act, or talk like people do in seminary. If you act like a seminary student the rest of your life, you’ll be pushed to the fringes of real ministry.

Hang in there. For pastors, you are not called to be successful, but you are called to be faithful.

May the Lord grant you strength and wisdom as you lead the change in your local congregation this week.


-Pastor Jonathan Hayashi is a pastor, educator, and contributor to Ambo TV.  This article originally appeared on his blog www.jonathanhayashi.com.